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Thomas (Howard), 2nd Duke of Norfolk

Thomas (Howard), 2nd Duke of Norfolk

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  1. 1.  Thomas (Howard), 2nd Duke of NorfolkThomas (Howard), 2nd Duke of Norfolk was born in 1443 in Stoke Neyland, Suffolk, England (son of John (Howard), 1st Duke of Norfolk and Catherine de Moleyns); died on 21 May 1524 in Framlingham Castle, Framlingham, Suffolk, England; was buried on 26 June 1524 in Thetford Abbey, Thetford, Norfolk, England.

    Other Events:

    • Education: Thetford Grammar School, Thetford, Norfolk, England
    • Office: 1503–4; Lord High Steward
    • Office: 1483–84; Steward of the Household
    • Office: 1476; Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
    • Office: 1478; Member of Parliament (M.P.) for Norfolk
    • Decoration: 18 Jan. 1477/78; Knight of the Order of the Bath (K.B.)
    • Decoration: June 1483; Knight of the Order of the Garter (K.G.)
    • Office: June 1483; Privy Counsellor (P.C.)
    • Hereditary Title: 28 June 1483; 1st Earl of Surrey [E., 1483]
    • Office: 1501; Privy Counsellor (P.C.)
    • Office: 1489–1509; Chief Justice in Eyre North of Trent
    • Office: 23–24 June 1509; Marshal of England
    • Office: 10 July 1510; Earl Marshal of England [for life]
    • Office: July 1513; Lieutenant-General in the North
    • Hereditary Title: 1 Feb. 1513/14; 1st Duke of Norfolk [E., 1514]
    • Office: 29 May 1514; Great Chamberlain
    • Office: 31 May – 18 July 1520; Guardian of England
    • Office: 13 May 1521; Lord High Steward
    • Office: June 1501 – 1522; Lord High Treasurer

    Notes:

    "He is said to have had 16 children—8 sons and 2 daughters by the first wife, and 2 sons and 4 daughters by the second."

    Office:
    For the trial of Edward (Sutton), Lord Dudley

    Decoration:
    Degraded from the Garter 1485; restored circa 1491.

    Hereditary Title:
    By girding of the sword. In tail male (Cal. Charter Rolls, volume vi, page 258). The day on which his father was created Duke of Norfolk.

    Office:
    For the coronation of Henry VIII

    Office:
    Where he gained (9 September) the famous victory over the Scots at Flodden Field

    Hereditary Title:
    The 1514 creation was afforded the precedency of the 1397 creation.

    He resigned on the same day the dignity of Earl of Surrey in favour of his eldest son, for his son's life.

    Thomas is generally considered to have been the 2nd Duke of Norfolk as though the 1514 creation were a restoration of the 1483 creation.

    Office:
    During a minority

    Office:
    During the King's absence in France

    Office:
    For the trial of his sons's father-in-law, the Duke of Buckingham

    Buried:
    A full account of the ceremony is in College of Arms MS. WB., folios 82–90. A long account is printed in Martin's Thetford, Appendix 38.

    "It is supposed that his remains were removed at the Dissolution, and some say that the brasses were moved to the Howard chapel at Lambeth (Surrey Arch. Coll., vol. ix, p. 397). Will, P.C.C., 23 Bofelde (abstract Idem, vol. ix, p. 427)."

    Thomas married Elizabeth Tilney on 30 April 1472. Elizabeth (daughter of Sir Frederick Tylney and Elizabeth Cheney) died on 4 April 1497. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Lord Edmund Howard
    2. Lady Elizabeth Howard died in 1538.

    Thomas married Agnes Tylney in 1497. Agnes (daughter of Hugh Tylney and unknown Tailboys) was buried on 31 May 1545 in Thetford Abbey, Thetford, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  John (Howard), 1st Duke of NorfolkJohn (Howard), 1st Duke of Norfolk (son of Sir Robert Howard and Lady Margaret Mowbray); died on 22 Aug. 1485 in Bosworth Field, near Ambion Hill, Sutton Cheney, Leicestershire, England; was buried in Leicester, Leicestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Office: 1455; Member of Parliament (M.P.) for Norfolk
    • Office: 1461; Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
    • Decoration: 29 March 1461, Towton, Yorkshire, England; Knighthood
    • Office: 1467; Sheriff of Oxfordshire
    • Hereditary Title: by 15 Oct. 1470; Lord Howard [E., 1470]
    • Decoration: 24 April 1472; Knight of the Order of the Garter (K.G.)
    • Office: 1483; Privy Counsellor (P.C.)
    • Office: 1483; Steward of the Duchy of Lancaster
    • Hereditary Title: 28 June 1483; 1st Duke of Norfolk [E., 1483]
    • Hereditary Title: 28 June 1483; Earl Marshal of England [E., 1483]
    • Office: July 1483; Admiral of England, Ireland, and Aquitaine
    • Office: 30 June – 7 July 1483; High Steward

    Notes:

    He succeeded his father in 1436.

    Office:
    As to his election, see Paston Letters, volume i, pages 337, 340, 341. It was presumably this John Howard who was M.P. for Suffolk in 1449 and 1467.

    Decoration:
    "He was a zealous Yorkist, and was knighted by Edward IV at the battle of Towton, 29 Mar. 1461. ..."

    Hereditary Title:
    "He was summoned to Parliament from 15 Oct. (1470) 49 Hen. VI to 15 Nov. (1482) 22 Edw. IV, by writs directed Johanni Howard de Howard, Militi, and Johanni Howard, Chivaler, whereby he is held to have become Lord Howard."

    "He is so referred to in contemporary documents. But it should be noted that he was so styled seven months before he was summoned to Parliament, which suggests that the writ [was] issued in virtue of some other form of creation."

    Hereditary Title:
    "By this creation Richard III either ignored that of Edward IV or tacitly acknowledged that his nephew was dead."

    See Cal. Charter Rolls, volume vi, page 258. On the same day his son and heir Thomas Howard was created Earl of Surrey, and William, Viscount Berkeley, the other coheir of the great Mowbray inheritance, was created Earl of Nottingham.

    Hereditary Title:
    See Cal. Patent Rolls, 1476–85, page 358; Rymer, volume xii, page 190. He received the office of Marshal of England, and the name, title, and honour of Earl Marshal of England, to him and the heirs male of his body, which John, late Duke of Norfolk, held and which came into the King's hand on his death sine prole mascula: bearing a gold rod (as granted by Richard II), with a fee of £20 out of the fee farm of Ipswich.

    Office:
    For the Coronation of Richard III. See Cal. Patent Rolls, 1476–85, page 360; Rymer, volume xii, page 191.

    Buried:
    His body was later moved to Thetford, Norfolk, England.

    John married Catherine de Moleyns. Catherine died on 3 Nov. 1465 in Stoke Neyland, Suffolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Catherine de Moleyns died on 3 Nov. 1465 in Stoke Neyland, Suffolk, England.

    Notes:

    There is some confusion as to Catherine's parentage.

    Although in some older publications, such as Collins, she is stated to have been the daughter of Sir Richard de Moleyns by Eleanor Beaumont, she was more probably, in view of chronology and her memorial brass, the daughter of their son Sir William de Moleyns (who died 8 June 1425) by his wife Margery.

    Sir William and Margery married before Michaelmas 1405, according to Cokayne (Complete Peerage, volume IX, page 41), citing the account of the steward of the household of William de Moleyns, son and heir of Sir Richard de Moleyns, Michaelmas 1401 to Michaelmas 1402 [sic], Exch., K.R., Accts., 512/7. It is unclear if "1405" is correct given the citation; the History of Parliament, citing Cokayne, gives the marriage as having occurred before Michaelmas 1401. To have been a daughter of Sir William and Margery, Catherine would need to have been born between about 1401 and 1425 (the year of Sir William's death). Since Catherine's husband, John Howard (later created Duke of Norfolk), was probably born about 1425, this chronology is plausible, since we might expect Catherine not to have been much older than her husband. From the heraldic brass, it is thought that Margery may have been a Whalesborough of Cornwall, although the History of Parliament simply infers, from her having had a reversionary interest in certain Cornish estates, that she may have been related to John Treverbyn.

    Sir William's and Margery's son and heir, William, baptised 8 December 1405, married Anne Whalesborough on 1 May 1423 at Ewelme (Complete Peerage, volume 9, page 42). Presumably those who think that William's mother, Margery, may have been a Whalesborough are suggesting that William married a cousin of some degree. It seems possible, in view of chronology, that Catherine could have been the daughter of William and Anne if she were born not long after their marriage, in which case Catherine's mother would indeed have been a Whalesborough, but not Margery. She may then have been a sister of Eleanor, the wife of Sir Robert Hungerford who was summoned to Parliament as Lord Moleyns. Robert's being summoned as Lord Moleyns in January 1444/45 might suggest that his wife had no surviving siblings, although she is described as a co-heir of her father in Complete Peerage, and the rules of peerage inheritance were not consistent (as the lack of summons for earlier generations of the Moleyns family shows).

    If you are reading this note and have any further information to confirm the parentage of Catherine de Moleyns, please contact us.

    Died:
    See Paston Letters, volume iii, page 486; Weever, page 506, who states erroneously that she died in 1452. Her brass remains there. A drawing of her heraldic gravestone is in Cott. MS., Jul., C vii, folio 237 (Coll. of Nicholas Charles), and a description in Collins's Peerage, volume i, pages 63, 64.

    Children:
    1. 1. Thomas (Howard), 2nd Duke of Norfolk was born in 1443 in Stoke Neyland, Suffolk, England; died on 21 May 1524 in Framlingham Castle, Framlingham, Suffolk, England; was buried on 26 June 1524 in Thetford Abbey, Thetford, Norfolk, England.
    2. Lady Isabel Howard died shortly before 14 June 1506.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Sir Robert HowardSir Robert Howard

    Other Events:

    • Residence: Stoke Neyland, Suffolk, England

    Robert married Lady Margaret Mowbray. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Lady Margaret Mowbray (daughter of Thomas (de Mowbray), 1st Duke of Norfolk).
    Children:
    1. 2. John (Howard), 1st Duke of Norfolk died on 22 Aug. 1485 in Bosworth Field, near Ambion Hill, Sutton Cheney, Leicestershire, England; was buried in Leicester, Leicestershire, England.
    2. Katharine Howard died after 29 June 1478.


Generation: 4

  1. 10.  Thomas (de Mowbray), 1st Duke of Norfolk was born on 22 March 1365/66; died on 22 Sept. 1399 in Venice, Italy.

    Other Events:

    • Hereditary Title: 1st Duke of Norfolk [E., 1397]
    • Hereditary Title: Earl of Norfolk [E., 1312]
    • Decoration: circa 1383; Knight of the Order of the Garter (K.G.)
    • Hereditary Title: 10 Feb. 1382/83; Lord Mowbray
    • Hereditary Title: 10 Feb. 1382/83; Lord Segrave
    • Hereditary Title: 12 Feb. 1382/83; 1st Earl of Nottingham [E., 1383]
    • Office: 30 June 1385; Marshal of England
    • Hereditary Title: 12 Jan. 1385/86; Earl Marshal of England [E., 1386]
    • Office: 1389; Keeper of Berwick and Roxburgh
    • Office: 1389; Warden of the East March
    • Office: 1 June 1391; Captain of Calais
    • Office: 6 Nov. 1392; King's Lieutenant in Calais, Picardy, Flanders, and Artois

    Notes:

    "In Oct. 1382, as the King's kinsman and young knight, he had a hunting licence."

    "By the operation of modern doctrine he is held to have been Lord Mowbray and Segrave, but he and his brother John were styled respectively merely Thomas and John Mowbray when they were created Earls."

    In June 1385, he was summoned for service against the Scots, and was in the vanguard in that—the King's first—expedition into Scotland.

    He served under his father-in-law, the Earl of Arundel, in the naval victory over the French, Spanish, and Flemish fleets off Margate, 24 March 1386/87.

    In Feb. 1387/88 he supported his father-in-law, the Earl of Arundel, as one of the Lords Appellant against the Duke of Ireland and other of the King's favourites.

    In May 1390, "he was a commissioner to negotiate a truce with the Scots, and joined in the letter of the King and peers to the Pope, remonstrating against papal abuses in the Church, Parliament having called upon the King, in accordance with his coronation oath, to preserve the rights of the Crown and the liberties of the realm and Church."

    In 1394 he accompanied the King to Ireland. He had licence to appoint a deputy at Calais on 26 August.

    In January 1394 his crest of a leopard or, with a white label, to which he had hereditary right, and which was rightly the crest of the King's first-born son, if he had any, was directed to be differenced by a crown argent in place of the label.

    In October 1395 he was one of the commissioners to contract the King's marriage with Isabel of France. He was presumably present at their espousals at Calais, 30 Oct. 1396.

    Office:
    Office granted for life

    "From which [office], for certain urgent causes, the King had discharged the Earl of Kent."

    Hereditary Title:
    On 12 Jan. 1385/86, he received, by charter, the office of Marshal of England, with the name, title, and honour of Earl Marshal in tail male.

    This was confirmed to Parliament, 10 Feb. 1396/97, with whatsoever had belonged to the office as held by Thomas de Brotherton or Roger Bigod; and also the right to bear, in place of the wooden rod theretofore used by himself and his predecessors in office, a golden rod, with a black ring at each end, at the top the royal arms, and the Marshal's arms at the lower end.

    Office:
    Appointed on 1 Feb. 1390/91, for 5 years from 1 June.

    Office:
    Not 8 November, as in Carte's Cat. des Rolles François.

    Children:
    1. 5. Lady Margaret Mowbray



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